That weird Kjorteo-like thing ([info]kjorteo) wrote,
@ 2008-05-01 08:02:00
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Current mood: I AM ERROR.

It burrrrns
So apparently playing Oblivion for more than about half an hour makes my video card hotter than (insert furry reference here,) which I suppose would explain the whole "it runs fine at first but eventually things start getting glitchy" effect I was experiencing.

But come on, it's Oblivion. This is not a new game. Mercury (not shown: GeForce 7900 GT card) may or may not (probably not) be able to handle Crysis, but my last machine could freaking handle Oblivion. Granted, I might have added a couple texture-replacing mods since then, but I'm told that if those prove too much to handle, that's allegedly supposed to manifest itself immediately as stuttering/choppy performance and low framerate, not later as things-are-great-until-your-video-card-explodes.

[info]yiffyraptor has already suggested compressed air-blasting the card just in case dust buildup is doing it, which doesn't seem like a bad idea, though I'll have to get more compressed air for that since apparently we're out and no one told me. Other than that, I'm open to advice from my more tech-savvy friends.

In case this helps, checking the temperature first thing upon logging in after the computer has been off for a while gave me a reading of about 45 C, but it was up to about 50 C (the threshold upon which Hardware Sensors Monitor 4.4 starts coloring the readout window yellow) within 5-10 minutes of random desktop/Firefox (no games) use. It's been on for hours as of when I write this but at absolutely no point was Oblivion (or any game) played, and the increase is either dramatically slower or has finally stabilized, but has done so at around 60 C (still yellow.) I'm no expert, but that seems high for idle non-game use (and I can recognize that yellow isn't a good color to be seeing on a white-yellow-red temperature scale,) which, when combined with what I said about how one would expect cranked-too-high settings/shiny new textures/etc. to cause immediate framerate issues rather than slow and gradual temperature issues, leads me to believe that I'm looking at some other problem. Dust seems like as good a guess as any for now, but again, input is welcome.



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[info]kjorteo
2008-05-01 02:24 pm UTC (link)
In before comical alternate interpretations of the word "insert" in regards to the furry reference.

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[info]spittydragon
2008-05-01 06:33 pm UTC (link)
I had an ATI card that would go to about 110-130c when playing games... this was game breaking as occasionally it would start getting all crazy graphical artifacts and go nuts... I later found out this was happening because the fan on the card no longer worked ;_;

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[info]kjorteo
2008-05-02 12:44 am UTC (link)
Yeah, that's pretty much what happened when I was playing Oblivion, though with (possibly) a lower critical failure temperature point, and I haven't checked the video card fan yet.

The worst it got was when the graphical glitches went extreme, then the entire system crashed and auto-rebooted instantly, and it hung up on boot. It'd get right to the point where the "Windows XP" loading screen should appear, but it...didn't. It took me three times trying to reboot and making it to that stage and failing until I suddenly thought "Hey, I wonder if maybe the video card overheated and that's keeping it from booting," and I let it stay off for about 5-10 minutes, then successfully booted, then immediately checked the temperature. At that point, it claimed to be about 85 C (red).

Would a dead fan explain it actually stabilizing in idle desktop use, though? It seems to stop rising once it hits about 60, which is too high for idle desktop use, but it doesn't climb even higher after that..

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[info]mike_woolman
2008-05-02 10:30 am UTC (link)
I wouldn't expect the pressures of an idle desktop to be so much as to overheat your computer.

Is there normal airflow around your vents? If you don't feel much flow, then it's easy to open things up and see if it's clogged up inside.

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[info]xaq
2008-05-03 12:55 pm UTC (link)
Mercury (not shown: GeForce 7900 GT card) may or may not (probably not) be able to handle Crysis, but...

Sign of true geekdom right there...I thought that said "Crystalis" at first. (If you're using a video card that can't handle that, I think it may be time to upgrade from the Apple IIe. :b )

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[info]kjorteo
2008-05-03 03:12 pm UTC (link)
Fortunately, it's not quite in that bad shape. :P

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[info]wingedgirl
2008-05-04 12:57 am UTC (link)
DOes the fan on the card look like it's running? And if it is, can you tell through your video card app if it's running as fast as it's supposed to? Right now, I've got a chipset fan on my motherboard that's clogged and not spinning fast enough; took me a while to figure that one out. If it's possible to detatch the thing, take it out and declog it! :D

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[info]kjorteo
2008-05-04 03:12 am UTC (link)
I cracked open the case and had a look. The video card fan is indeed spinning properly, though I don't know where in my "video card app" I would go to see if the speed is optimal. The card itself looks fine but there's a scary amount of dust elsewhere (on the processor heatsink, for example,) so I'm going to blast the case out next time I get canned air, which I'm still out of. :/ Interestingly enough, cleaning the filter on the front intake (which I do every month) changed the temperature it climbs to and then stops and stabilizes at on desktop use from 60 to 54, which is encouraging.

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